Behringer, Good or Bad?

For those of you who don’t know, Behringer is a German company that does their manufacturing in China. They’re an audio equipment company that seems to specialize in copying existing designs from other manufacturers. While I believe they do have some original equipment, many of their products are “ripoffs” sold at a much lower price than the original. It’s always obvious that they’re Behringer products, and there’s no attempt to fool the customer, but sometimes even the names are not so subtle hints as to which products they’re emulating (Xenyx vs. Onyx anyone?).

If you lurk around various internet forums involving pro audio equipment, you’ll quickly find that people are usually pretty polarized about Behringer. Some people love the great value, and the fact that equipment formerly only available to the pro is made available (through a lower price) to the amateur. Others are upset at the blatant copying, and go as far as to advocate and practice boycott of the company. Still others are merely leery, citing poor build quality.

Value

In my opinion, most of Behringer’s products are priced for excellent value. Take their mixers; no other company produces them at anywhere near that cost, and the Behringers come with relatively extensive feature sets. Actually, I’d say the vast majority of Behringer’s products have great feature sets at a relatively amazing price point. Some argue that for the price, even if they fail at twice the rate, that still makes some of these products a higher value at less than half the cost. I’m sure those that have had equipment break on stage during a gig would agree with me that this is not really a valid argument! At least not for everyone. Many (granted, not all) of these products have pretty good sound quality as well, making them a tempting buy.

Copying

The question around copying is a tricky one. The issue is in fact twofold. One is the question of whether Behringer’s copying is stifling innovation, and the other is whether this cuts into other companies’ profits. Actually, these two issues are quite linked, though they are not the same. I don’t have the answer to either. I would say, however, that some competition has definitely been good for the market, and I would venture to say that I have not seen Behringer harm the market overall. I believe that many audio products especially in the prosumer market are overpriced. Behringer has alleviated some of that. Still there is a certain point where the blatant cloning of products seems to me to be morally wrong and probably discourages innovation (why do R&D when someone else will take all your hard work for free?).

Quality

There are almost always people who say there are quality problems with one company or another, or sometimes a particular product. It’s really hard to say when these complaints are legitimate. Probably most of them are real, but people tend to complain when they come across problems and not speak up half as much when things go well. Thus, I’d expect people who have problems who complain constitute a disproportionately percentage of the vocal userbase in comparison to the whole userbase. One generally only hears anecdotal stories. Still, these stories are valuable because while individual cases may not be indicative of the company’s overall quality, in aggregate they can point to quality problems.

Having said that, I suppose I should proceed to describe a little of my personal experience. I think I’ve mentioned briefly before a few of the problems I’ve had with Behringer equipment, but I’ll list off the problems I’ve had again quickly. Our drummer purchased two UB-series Behringer mixers a while back probably around 2 years ago, I’m guessing. I think one was a UB1204-Pro and the other was the UB1202. In the middle of one session he accidentally hit one of them (the UB1204-Pro) with his drum stick while playing, and the left channel died. Another one of my friends owned a UB802 (my mini-review here), and after year or two of heavy use, some of the XLR jacks are a bit loose. I recently discovered that my own UB802 has a dead main left channel out. Our church uses a DI800 which is an 8-channel rack DI. We’ve found it quite useful, but recently the second channel died. It flips between loud and soft intermittently rendering the channel essentially useless. Note that I also own a BX4500H bass head as well as a V-AMP 2 (review here), and our drummer owns a B300 Ultrawave, all of which so far have been problem free. It should also be noted though, that these have gone through less wear-and-tear so far. We’ll see how they hold up in the long haul.

Conclusion

Make your own conclusion! While I think for now I’m going to cut back on the Behringer purchases, I wouldn’t go so far as to tell people not to buy from them. I’ve just had too much go wrong to want to risk much more money into their products. Do your research and form your own opinion. There are definitely good values to be had…

~ by audioreviewer on December 12, 2006.

18 Responses to “Behringer, Good or Bad?”

  1. I totally agree with you on this.
    But do you know that some twenty years ago they made not so bad equipment.
    That is when Behringer manufactured in Germany and not China, before they had all these mixers and stuff, they didn’t even have a logo (just the name Behringer) and their compressors and denoisers (that’s all they produced back then) were in the color black with a red stripe.
    The compressors were used in midpriced studio’s.
    Because of the experience that I had with their early gear I made the mistake of buying the later stuff, well I just threw them away (no joke).
    And the old (good) compressors that I have, I sent them to Behringer just for calibration, can you believe that they damaged one and sent the other one back in the same condition as i had sent it and still charged me for their “work?”
    That’s when I decided not to have anything to do with this company again.

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  3. I’m sad that’s theres so much bad press about Behringer.I have a 1202 mixer, rackmount FX unit,rackmount compressor,rackmount crossover and 2 DI’s all Behringer and all about 3 years old and have not had a problem with any of the equipment. It’s all used twice on sunday at church and performs great. I’m about to replace a Chiayo UHF mic with the Behringer UHF Mic because I’m so impressed with the unit. For me Behringer perfroms great and frees up $ for more equipment.

  4. Last summer I purchased guitar with the BEHRINGer amplifier for my son. It worked fine for some time and after 4 months it stopped working. I called the store”The source” but found out that they are not responsible for repair, refund or exchange.
    Thank you!! but I warren everyone I know to stay away from this product.

  5. Somehow i missed the point. Probably lost in translation :) Anyway … nice blog to visit.

    cheers, Venomousness.

  6. Well let me add a bit of experience about Behringer products from a dealers prospective. DON’T BUY THEIR PRODUCTS! I have used their studio monitors in our demo room, along with many other brands and Behringer is by far the worst build and actually dangerous.

    We are pretty hard on our speakers and don’t turn them off, ever. After about a year and a half several of our Behringer monitors started to fail, we had about 22 of them in use. I’m not just saying they stopped working, they actually started to catch on fire when the amps wore out. Also, they are prone to overloads. If there is a spike from a computer crashing it can cause the amp to overload and smoke or catch on fire. We have also blown several speakers and crossover components by overloads.

    The company is incredibly disorganized and it is very difficult to get issues resolved. They know their products are poorly designed and that they use the cheapest components available, so just watch out!

    I know some of you may be fans of their products and prices, so just take my advice for what it is worth. I am not a fan of speakers that spontaneously combust. Thank God our smoke detectors worked each time.

    We have stopped dealing with them and have returned everything we bought.

  7. About 5 years ago, I took up playing keyboard and read all the reviews concerning keyboard combo amps. I also tried out a few amps in stores; the sound from the Behringer KX1200 (combined piano amp and P.A.) was very good and the unit was not expensive.

    I ordered one from Dolphin Music here in the UK and have been gigging with it, twice a month, ever since. I use it daily at home for practice and sometimes lend it to other musicians. Meanwhile I have bought a small Behringer mixer, a Behringer Microphone and their U-control computer interface. So 5 years on, I had thought the company a pretty good one. But, today, the amp is pretty much scrap.

    At my last gig the fan stopped working and the line-out jack went dead and today I plugged in the output from a the Behringer U-control to the tape input on the amp (as the U-conrol instructions suggest) and the amp made a loud buzz, smelled of burning and generally made a horrible noise. It still makes the horrible noise even with nothing plugged in.

    Now I’m of the generation that expects things to last – I had a hi-fi amp that lasted over 20 years and a 1958 car that ran well until 1995. So 5 years is very poor in my opinion.

    I’ve scoured the Behringer web site for an e-mail address to write to but there doesn’t seem to be one.

    So, all in all, I was very impressed with Behringer until now.

    Best wishes

    Nick
    PS any suggestions as to what I should replace it with?

  8. I like cheese too.

  9. I appreciate the extensive research that the writer of this blog has done for us lower income consumers. However, he does kind of sit on the fence as to whether its a good thing or a bad thing to purchase a Behringer product.

    I’m a lazy guy-don’t like writing a bunch of stuff so everyone can arbitrarily dismantle the point of view or work I tried to put into something, so I’ll just say this about Behringer: I’ve owned a 1202 that has been my only mixer for my little home studio. It buses everything to my MBox so that I can easily have more than one thing going at a time, or more than one instrument, blah blah…I’ve owned this piece for 7 years? now, and it is still as functional and consistent as it was when I first bought it. I can’t afford, or even justify picking up something that invariably would be a major advance for my purposes. Some interface/mixer/soundcard that’s going to be 7-10X’s more expensive. So to me this is a no-brainer! I’m getting my music out there with Behringer’s help. Just like with Marshall’s help, and now since May, with Bugera’s help, and with Mackie’s, Yamaha’s, Boss’s, Roland’s, Johnson’s-whatever company I can get the job done with that does it well enough to ensure a good product and representation of who I ‘am’, what I wish to convey, etc.

    So ethically speaking, should one abstain/boycott a product? And suffer becuase some company that isn’t doing things the ‘customary’ way to get their product out there? I say NO WAY. Anyone of us guitar players says in our hearts that we do things on the fretboard that ‘no one else thought of’, or wrote, etc. when we know that someone pioneered this fretboard and laid it all out before we did. But only the players that ‘makes waves’, or doesn’t do things the ‘customary’ way.

    Anyone who judges another for using the products that have been approved and admitted for release to the public (for lack of a better way to phrase it right now!) is making a mistake and not really seeing things in the right way. Behringer belongs in the market just as much as any other so-called ‘Boutique’ company, of which I will not name names here, belongs in the market.

    Find fault with whatever you want to, but I’m a player and I have been all my life practically. I’m not going to worry about political borders or loyalty because I know this is all irrelevant in the end. You can listen to my music or you don’t have to; you can use Behringer or decide not to. If you LIKE my music it will survive, and if I’m a GOOD musician so will I. Time will tell if Behringer is good enough to be on the scene for us to use or not. We don’t even have to worry about it really as their products’ reputations will be made manifest by the users. It’ll either survive or not.

    JMTCW-thanks for letting me share my opinion.

  10. I’ve bought my last piece of Behringer gear. I’ve got a Xenyx 2442 on the workbench right now, because after working fine for months, I went to turn it on and the magic smoke started pouring out the side vent. I don’t see anything outwardly wrong now that I have it apart, but I haven’t had a chance to start poking around with a meter yet.

    I also have an MX9000 that I bought used (but inoperative) for a couple hundred bucks – I figured the connectors alone are worth that even if I can’t fix it. I’ve got the power supply in pieces on the workbench, and the electrical engineer that designed this POS needs to be beaten about the head and shoulders. First and foremost, they cheaped out on the voltage regulators BIG TIME – the regulators that are there are not even rated to handle the mixer’s power requirements printed on the outside of the supply itself, much less provide any kind of safety margin, so this power supply was effectively designed to fail from the get-go. What does it tell you that a company will sacrifice reliability and safety just to save $5.00 in parts on a mixer that retailed for $1300 or so?

    Sorry Behringer, you lose, and never again will a piece of your gear see the inside of my home.

  11. I have a set of B212A and have not had a problem yet. I don’t overuse these speakers which may be why I have not had any problems. I think Behringer as a company is fine as you know what you are getting. So if you know you are going to be really maxing out these speakers then get another brand. But if you are just using them occassionally or not maxing them out then why not go with a Behringer

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  14. You get what you pay for, and sometimes you get unlucky.
    People who have the proper ear for studio recording won’t put up with Behringer. I’ve been doing live sound for nearly 20 years and I learned early that if the public don’t hear ear-piercing feedback, then everything else sounds good to them. So I try and balance quality and value in my purchases.

    I go with two audio buying philosophies :
    “Try and buy the best, you’ll always be satisfied with it” and “buy one to use, and one to loose”. The first applies to the critical gear (amps, mixers, speakers and mics). The second applies to Behringer.

    The gear is cheap and arguably when it works, it does a good job, but its a good idea to have some spares on hand (applies to ALL gear). Behringer’s are cheap enough you can have some extra gear without busting the bank. Just look at eBay as proof of that.

  15. I think behringer is the worst thing you can buy things made by Behringer sound terrible Most people that live on a low budget production probably have never heard a mixing board with good Phase linearity, but true professional sound … actually sound great and behringer has the looks but definitely not the sound i really dont understand why behringer has CLONES man literally clones of gear Whats up With that … did you guys know that behringer has a Lawsuit anyway last but not least companies like boss cost three times more and sometimes its hard to afford them i guess that is why a lot of people end up buying a product that looks good and looks like mackie or Boss for an exceptional price but the product end up sounding like crap THATS A RIP OFF !

  16. Well… it shouldn’t be a surprise to anyone when something that cost 1/4 of something else is made cheaply and goes to pot early. You get what you pay for. That said… I’ve owned a couple of Behringer things and they seemed to be pretty nicely built – on the _outside_. I wondered how they hit the price point – the guy who found the undersized voltage regs… that explains it.

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  18. I own a pair of b225A’s and a xenyx 1202 mixer. I have had nothing to complain about the quility of these products. I have replaced my mixer to a mackie vlz3 pro and it completely kills behringer in there mixer sound quility. but what can you expect. the mackie was 700$ and the xenyx 1202 was 80$ but it served as a good 8 channel mixer fr practice. The speakers sound better than the jbl ion’s and are comparable to the powered mackies. So all in all the behringers are good for gettin your starter demo out there but definently upgrade to somthing like mackie once you get your music goin

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